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Historical Jesus and the Importance of Criteria
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what is meant by                  when they say the historical Jesus?
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what are the                  that we use when we talk decide what is historical and what is not?
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what do we mean when we talk about the real Nero or the real                 , or Reagan or Clinton
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what we usually mean by the real person is a body of                    that approaches an extremely accurate record of every day of their life
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obviously,                history is a different caliber for determining what is real in this sense
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few sources
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the idea of objectivity certainly wasn't there for ancient                       
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even the very significant figures are not well known in the sense of                 
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we sense that Caligula was an evil kind of person since people who witness his murders communicated this, but he never communicated anything directly
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but we don't know for certain to what degree Caligula was mad, sad, or       
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once you get past what                    and Tacitus tell us in the way of gossip, what do we really know?
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and this was one of the emperors
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for Jesus
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once you get down to the totally obscure Jew from                    who was born probably somewhere around 8-4 BC and lived to roughly around 30 AD, you get the sense that we're not going to have a vast amount of information here
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but this is a problem we face with any ancient, historical figure
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what we know with certitude about Alexander the Great could probably be fit onto a              page of print
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and so we have problems here with the historical Jesus
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this historical Jesus is the person who can be recovered, reconstituted, and reconstructed by applying              tools of historical research to ancient sources
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even the                mention that what they report of Jesus is a selection of what they knew, and that it was written not for a historical purpose of explaining who the name behind the Jesus name was, but that you may believe in Jesus as a religious figure, which is something entirely different
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as with anything written in Ancient times, these texts were written from a very specific point of view
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in the case of Jesus, most written accounts must be seen through the            carried on by the early church
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which leads tot he second question: if the four Gospels are both our major sources and our major road blocks of constructing a historical Jesus, how do you approach them, how do you sift them, so that on the one hand you're not being terribly naive, whereas on the other hand you're not being unduly                   
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Mark
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was written around 70 AD
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drew upon earlier                       
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Matthew and Luke
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build on Mark
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but have a separate stream of sayings of Jesus which we label Q
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have their own special traditions
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John
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is very useful contrary to what many people claim
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it represents a different tradition than the                  Gospels (Mark, Matthew and Luke)
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was the last one to be written
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there is much to much of a tendency to dismiss John
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some say         's account of the Last Supper was correct and the Synoptics were not
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what criteria do we use to discover the historical Jesus
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stage one
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the actual life of Jesus himself
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stage two
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the early oral tradition and the teaching of the Church after Jesus' death
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applying Jesus' teaching to unwashed              being introduced to it
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stage three
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the                       : Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John
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how do we move back from stage three, to stage two, and then to stage one
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                   criticism
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regards the author of the text as editor of his or her source materials
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considers the tendencies of the final writer
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criterion
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Greek [κριτήριον] for a test, a means of judging
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some              criteria
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what criteria are reasons, rules, standards on which to make a judgement
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so what use are your conclusions without these reasons, rules, and standards
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so criteria is very important, i.e. to know what criteria you use, when do they apply, in what ways do they apply, etc.
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multiple                        of independent sources
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thinking of it as a court room, you need more than one person on the witness stand who did not collude with the witness beforehand
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the prohibition of                is in
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Mark's gospel
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Q tradition
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Paul is very strong on urging this
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was very confident of his apostolic authority
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it was typical of him call who speaks in the "I" form
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e.g. I Corinthians, chapter 7
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but with the prohibition of divorce,          suggests that Jesus said it
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when he needs to talk about a mixed marriage between a Christian and a pagan, then he returns to his own authority
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discontinuity criteria
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in mainstream                had rules and regulations govern it
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that one would prohibit it completely is not likely
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the early church struggled with the prohibition of divorce that they were apparently handed down by Jesus
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criteria of                           
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John the Baptist baptizing Jesus
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with stark and                Mark
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everything is done quickly and you are left wondering what he meant by it
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he says that everyone that comes out to John the Baptist to confess their         
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then Jesus came to be baptized, interestingly without the further participle referring to confessing of sins
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in the later Gospels
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feel Mark has not done enough
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you have an argument before Jesus' baptism where John says that he should rather be                  by Jesus
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Jesus speaking his first words, says, let it be so for now
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Matthew
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mathematical Matthew, teaching by way of                 
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Luke goes more radical
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has John the Baptist in the infancy narrative
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as well as Elizabeth, Mary, Zachary
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Herod then puts John in prison
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after that, Jesus gets baptized, we are not told who baptized Jesus, and we are told that John is in prison
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in the sermons of Peter and Paul where you get summaries of the Gospel stories, but never is ever said about the Baptism of Jesus by John in those summaries
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John
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the radical                  Gospel
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a different tradition and a world view, almost into Platonism
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his radical solution is that it never happened
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never says John the Baptist
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John is baptizing, but his major function is to witness to Jesus
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Jesus is never baptized in the              gospel
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in fact we find out that Jesus is baptizing other people in an imitation of John
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criterion of Jesus' passionate death
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how do we explain that this teacher and healer from                winds up getting crucified by the Roman Prefect in Jerusalem
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he must have said things and did things that threatened people and threatened very                  people
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so a bland Jesus, or Jesus as            philosopher, or a Jesus who is interested in mysticism is not very believable

Spelling Corrections:

crusified ⇒ crucified

Ideas and Concepts:

An invitation to discuss what one means by real, via tonight's Jesus in Scripture and Tradition class: "When discussing the historical Jesus with my students, I always remind them that the real Jesus is not the historical Jesus, and the historical Jesus is not the real Jesus."
Historical critical analysis concept of the day via this morning's Jesus in Scripture and Tradition class:

"Criterion of multiple attestation, n. a tool used by Biblical scholars to help determine whether certain actions or sayings by Jesus in the New Testament are from Historical Jesus.

The criterion of multiple attestation focuses on the sayings or deeds of Jesus that are attested to in more than one independent literary source such as Apostle Paul, Josephus, Q and/or the Gospel of the Hebrews. The force of this criterion is increased if a given motif or theme is also found in different literary forms such as parables, dispute stories, miracle stories, prophecy, and/or aphorism.

Multiple attestation has a certain kind of objectivity. Given the independence of the sources, satisfaction of the criterion makes it harder to maintain that it was an invention of the Church.

The criterion of multiple attestation typically one of a number of criteria used in Biblical research, others include the criterion of discontinuity (if a saying attributed to Jesus is dissimilar to the Jewish traditions of his time, it is likely to be authentic) and the criterion of embarrassment (accounts embarrassing to the author are presumed to be true because the author would have no reason to invent an embarrassing account), along with the historical method (uses sources of disinterested archeology)."
Eponymous Ancestors in the Bible
The Story of Jacob and his Sons
The Biblical Motif of First Born Son
The Shepherd Motif
Joseph's Dreams
The Problematic of Chosenness: Samuel and Joseph
Joseph in the Pit: Descent and Ascent
The Three Descents and Ascents of Joseph
Change in the Non-Elect
Joseph's Prison Dreams
The Symbolic of Joseph's Dreams as Service Not Power
Judah Pleads to Joseph for Benjamin
Judah as Most Important Son of Jacob
The Concept of Salvator Mundi
Transition from Israel to Jesus
Elijah and the Restoration of Israel
Preparing for the Restoration
Historical Jesus and the Importance of Criteria
The Historical Jesus and the Criteria of Coherence
Jesus: Who Do You Say I Am?
Chosenness and Responsibility to Love and Service
Discipleship as Service to Others
The Travel Narrative: Humanity's Blindness
Who was Responsible for the Death of Jesus
Rembrandt's Depictions of the Trial of Jesus